Improve german translation for ethos and ethos suite

[martinwilco]

Improved german translation for Ethos firmware [1.6.2] and Ethos Suite [1.6.1].

[Dsrenger]

Have you tested these translations on all transmitters?

Some of your translations are longer than the old ones.

There are transmitters, that have a smaller display.

In the past there was a lot of work put in, to reduce the length of the translation, so they are readable on transmitters with smaller displays as well.

I fear you have tested them only on transmitters with bigger displays.

German translations tend to be much longer than the English original.

I strongly recommend to test, the translations on every display size

[bsongis]

The new CSV system allows different text displayed, depending on the radio:

String name, String context, X20(...) / XE(S) / V20, X18RS / X14(...) / T14 / V15, All other radios

I think that this possibility is very interesting for Deutsch (and French too!)

[Dsrenger]

I agree, thats a nice possibility

But as far as I see the changes are for all transmitters at the moment. Therefore the question if these changes got verified on all transmitters.
before this question is not answered I wouldnt merge it.

[Wolepo]

Please give a few examples.

[bsongis]

I think this line won't work:
GYRO_CALIBRATION_LEFT,,"Zur LINKEN Seite neigen. Dann "Weiter" drücken."

[bsongis]

In case it is needed, the CSV can be tested with the simulator directly.

[martinwilco]

I have now tested everything with the X20S and the X14S simulator. For some strings I added modifications for the smaller displays.

I think this line won't work: GYRO_CALIBRATION_LEFT,,"Zur LINKEN Seite neigen. Dann "Weiter" drücken."

Thats's from the X14S simulator.

[Wolepo]

What's wrong with that?

[martinwilco]

What's wrong with that?

Nothing. I just wanted to show that this specific line actually does work.

The new CSV system allows different text displayed, depending on the radio:

String name, String context, X20(...) / XE(S) / V20, X18RS / X14(...) / T14 / V15, All other radios

I think that this possibility is very interesting for Deutsch (and French too!)

I just modified the de.csv for use with "All other radios". Unfortunately the X10EXPRESS simulator uses the X20-strings instead of the strings for "All other radios". An example would be:

TRAINER,,"L/S-Konfiguration","L/S-Konfig.","L/S-Konfig."

[Wolepo]

I know that it works like this. I have just looked through the menu items and found 4 more changes. I will implement them, but they will probably not take effect until the next Ethos version.

[bsongis]

The X10 Express is not any more supported by Ethos 1.6
It doesn't have such a feature.

[martinwilco]

Ok I understand. But do strings for "All other radios" actually work? Or are they ignored?

[bsongis]

You may test with X18 / X18S / Twin XLite

[martinwilco]

The third possible translation string for "All other radios" works with Twin X Lite S simulator. I have just tested all modifications with the X20S, X18R, X14S and TWXLITES simulators. I'd be very happy if this is merged.

[bsongis]

Wolepo maintains this file. I need his approval before pushing the button. He may push it as well!

[bsongis]

@Wolepo

[Wolepo]

Will be done tomorrow.

[martinwilco]

Thank you!
I would be very happy if you could merge the translation file for the Ethos Suite as well.

[martinwilco]

@Wolepo
I really don't understand what happened with the translation file updates. There are a few things wrong now that were correct in my file.
Above all, there are now some new inconsistencies.

For example:
My pr:
ADD_EXTRA_TRIM,,"Extra-Trimmung hinzufügen","Extra-Trimmung hinz." EXTRA_TRIM,,"Extra-Trimmung"
Now:
ADD_EXTRA_TRIM,,"Extra Trimmer hinzufügen","Extra-Trimmung hinz." EXTRA_TRIM,,"Extra trim"
Why suddenly have different translations for "TRIM"??

Or here two strings from the current version:
NO_TIMER_HINT,,"Keine Stoppuhr eingestellt. Zum Erstellen Plus-Button drücken!","Zum Erstellen einer Stoppuhr Plus Button drücken"
NO_MIX_HINT,,"Kein Mischer vorhanden. Plus-Button drücken zum Erstellen!","Zum Erstellen eines Mischers Plus-Button drücken"
Why change the word order? What's the reason? And why "Plus-Button" AND "Plus Button"? Why not just one consistent and clear version?

I can find at least 20 more of these inconsistencies.
I think this makes it particularly difficult for new users to understand Ethos. It's not intuitive as a result.
I'm also quite disappointed that my attempt to make everything clearer and easier to understand has been partially worsened.

This really makes Ethos look like an unfinished version of an RC operating system. And this despite the fact that it is actually an excellent system in the backend!

[bsongis]

???

[Wolepo]

Hello, I wonder where you get your de.csv from. What you mention here is wrong.
Changes in the wording are necessary because of the smaller displays in order to remain understandable. Random abbreviations have the opposite effect.
Insert the attached de.csv in the simulator, e.g. in C:\Users\Username.ethos\X14S\translations. Now start the simulator.
de.csv

[martinwilco]

I just had a look at the file you provided and checked it with the X14S and X20S simulator.
And voilà there are exactly the inconsistencies I described.

For example (your de.csv in X14S simulator):


That's exactly what I meant. Why would you write "Plus-Button" in the first one and "Plus Button" in the second one. Why is the "!" missing in the second one?

Another example (your de.csv in X20S simulator):


Why would you change the word order in the second sentence?
Please either put "Plus-Button drücken zum Erstellen" OR "Zum Erstellen Plus-Button drücken", but not a mix of both:)

These are just two examples of many...
Everything was right in the file that I uploaded.
Just have a look at the "Resove conflicts" function here in the chat. You will find many more changes like that.

[bsongis-frsky]

You may test the translations online now and on all Ethos radios:
https://ethos.studio1247.com/

[bsongis-frsky]

Example of translations difference, using the online simulator:

[bsongis-frsky]

You may even give a CSV as parameter to the page, like this:
https://ethos.studio1247.com/nightly16/X20_FCC?translations=https:%2F%2Fraw.github.com%2FFrSkyRC%2FETHOS-Feedback-Community%2F1fbcd0d08ba0d43e4db37cbcf8b96c0608fdd006%2Ftranslations%2Fethos%2Fde.csv

[martinwilco]

Thanks a lot! That's a great enhancement. I'll definitely give it a try later.

[bsongis]

I think I can improve further. Give me an extra day :)